Relaciones poco diplom¨¢ticas
Cable sobre la reuni¨®n de la embajada con Trinidad Jim¨¦nez para hablar de Venezuela
Noviembre de 2007. Jim¨¦nez describe a Ch¨¢vez como un payaso, pero asegura que quiere evitar pol¨¦micas con ¨¦l tras el "?por qu¨¦ no te callas?"
| ID: | 131725 |
| Date: | 2007-11-27 14:16:00 |
| Origin: | 07MADRID2159 |
| Source: | Embassy Madrid |
| Classification: | CONFIDENTIAL |
| Dunno: | 07MADRID2077 07MADRID2123 07STATE154674 |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L MADRID 002159 SIPDIS SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/26/2017 TAGS: PGOV, PHUM, VE, SP SUBJECT: DEMARCHE ON DEMOCRACY IN VENEZUELA REF: A. STATE 154674 B. MADRID 2123 C. MADRID 2077 Classified By: CHARGE D'AFFAIRES HUGO LLORENS, REASONS 1.4B AND D. 1. (C) Charge d'Affaires delivered ref a demarche November 23 to MFA Secretary of State for Iberoamerica Trinidad Jimenez and the Director General for Iberoamerica Javier Sandomingo. Drawing also on information provided by WHA/AND concerning Chavez' ties to Iran and increased narcotics trafficking from Venezuela, the Charge urged that Spain continue to speak out publicly in support of democracy in Venezuela, as FM Moratinos did when Chavez threatened RCTV. 2. (C) Jimenez demurred, saying Spain was trying to avoid being drawn into more public controversy with Chavez following the King's rebuke (ref b) and despite Chavez' continued rhetorical provocation. Jimenez said public opposition from Spain would only help Chavez whip up his supporters for the constitutional referendum. Pressed by the Charge to help the EU develop a constructive position, Jimenez said that Spain would try to do something, but would want to avoid an appearance of directly interfering in Venezuela's internal affairs. She said a possibility was to get a statement at the EU or European Parliament level. Jimenez also said the Spanish Government was working behind the scenes, feeding information to journalists on the threat to democracy in Venezuela. 3. (C) Jimenez noted that post-Santiago Spain had received messages of solidarity from virtually every government in Latin America. She said Chavez (whom she described as a "clown") was isolated. Alluding to the "Kings' Club" Jimenez said the Saudis had given Chavez the cold shoulder at the recent OPEC meeting because of his rudeness to Juan Carlos. She said even Evo Morales was signaling by his body language in Santiago that Chavez was embarrassing him. 4. (C) Jimenez agreed the proposed constitutional reforms would be a severe setback for democracy and noted that recent polls suggested that opposition was growing in Venezuelan society against the proposed changes to the constitution. She added, however, that it was tough for a government to lose a referendum and predicted a close vote. Sandomingo said fraud was a real possibility. Jimenez mentioned she had met with the opposition during her recent visit to Caracas (ref c), and although disorganized it was getting better and finally trying to articulate a position. She also said even high oil prices could not sustain Chavez' fiscal irresponsibility; Spanish businessmen and independent analysts told her an economic collapse was a high possibility with 24 months. LLORENS |
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